Tuesday, August 21, 2007

The Bible on the Immigration Debate about Elvira Arellano

The L.A. Times set up a forum next to its article about Elvira Arellano's deportation from Los Angeles on Sunday, August 19, 2007. (Arelleno had spent a year in a Chicago church, which gave her and her son, a U.S. citizen, sanctuary. For details, you can read the Times article.)

The comments next to the article make Lou Dobbs sound like Jesse Jackson. Here are the most recent ten postings, along with some brief replies.
1. She`s no activist... She`s a convicted illegal alien who was ordered deported, and hid behind the cross and her anchor baby for her own selfishness!
Submitted by: T
8:57 AM PDT, August 21, 2007

JS: "You shall not wrong a stranger or oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt." Exodus 22:21

2. Cannot get a post in. Typical l.a.times editing to do anything to support illegal immigration.
Submitted by: Ru
8:55 AM PDT, August 21, 2007

JS: This one speaks for itself.

3. We used to live next door to coyotes who lodged the illegals when they first came into the country. Our house was broken into several times, there was always trash and diapers in the streets. Why should we put up with that when poor Americans are already capable of trashing their own neighborhoods?
Submitted by: sick and tired
8:55 AM PDT, August 21, 2007

JS: "The stranger who sojourns with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God." Leviticus 19:34. "sick and tired" makes this point as well: Punish people for what they do; treat them as you would those born here, and not differently because of who they are or where they are from.

4. 1. Anchor babies ineligible within the last 5 years 2. The hiring of illegal immigrants subject to heavy fines Prosecute and deport MS13 members housing them in mexican jails or cuban.
Submitted by: options
8:55 AM PDT, August 21, 2007

JS: "For we are strangers before thee, and sojourners, as all our fathers were; our days on the earth are like a shadow, and there is no abiding." 1 Chronicles 29:15. To whom did God give the United States? Certainly not the author of the posting above, who, like David addressing God, is passing through the world and has no true claim to any of it.

5. I suggest illegal aliens read Mexico's constitution. Perhaps then they would understand that they cannot have it all there and here too.
Submitted by: Ru
8:48 AM PDT, August 21, 2007

JS: "The punishments did not come upon the sinners
without prior signs in the violence of thunder,
for they justly suffered because of their wicked acts;
for they practiced a more bitter hatred of strangers." Solomon 19:13.

6. She and her support team expended a lot of energy defying our laws. Did any one of them think about making her legal? Probably not ... no profit in doing it that way. If I'm right, she's out for 20 yrs on her 2nd deportation. Any wagers on how soon she'll try to slip across the border?
Submitted by: T.G.
8:46 AM PDT, August 21, 2007

JS: "Others had refused to receive strangers when they came to them,
but these made slaves of guests who were their benefactors." Solomon 19:14

7. Finally the U.S. Gov. has done something to give the americam people a little hope that we will get our country back from illegal aliens.
Submitted by: Ru
8:46 AM PDT, August 21, 2007

JS: "And not only so, but punishment of some sort
will come upon the former for their hostile reception of the aliens; but the latter, after receiving them with festal celebrations, afflicted with terrible sufferings
those who had already shared the same rights." Solomon 19: 15-16.

8. She should have done time for that stunt in Chicago, then got deported, keep coddling these criminals and they keep coming back.
Submitted by: Paul
8:44 AM PDT, August 21, 2007

JS: " Let brotherly love continue. Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. Remember those who are in prison, as though in prison with them; and those who are ill-treated, since you also are in the body." Hebrew 13: 1-3

9. Elvira needs to put her energy into changing her country. She was a felon many times over and if she did in her country what she did in ours she would have been "handled" years ago. All the illegal aliens in America should learn the immigration laws for Mexico by heart. It would serve them well.
Submitted by: CJ
8:40 AM PDT, August 21, 2007

JS: "Beloved, it is a loyal thing you do when you render any service to the brethren, especially to strangers." 3 John 5.

10. criminals are criminals thats why we do not like illegals.other countries break their laws on immigration you go to prison. here the democrats treat them like royalty for votes. on the backs of tax payers.
Submitted by: bsl7678
8:39 AM PDT, August 21, 2007

JS: "When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats,
and he will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left. Then the King will say to those at his right hand, `Come, O blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.'" Matthew 25: 31-36. The passage refers to Jesus separating nations not by ancestry but deeds. The ones blessed are the ones that shelter strangers and care for prisoners.


I quote and discuss these passages to show the hypocrisy of a so-called Christian country led by a self-declared born-again Christian, and not because these sentiments are unique to the Bible. Absent the promise of heaven to those who abide by these norms, they are the beliefs of numerous organizations and people worldwide, including atheist critics of nationalism such as this author.

2 comments:

Matt Carter said...

I'm a little fuzzy on the purpose of your article. You say you're an atheist, so you don't believe the Bible is true. Are you assuming the people you quoted are Christians? LA's a pretty multi-cultural area, I'd be surprised if those quotes are from Christians.

I'd also encourage you to read the Bible passages contextually. Sounds like you're trying to force those passages to fit your argument rather than hearing what they say.

jacqueline stevens said...

Funny note. The post explains exactly why I quote from the Bible. Once more: "I quote and discuss these passages to show the hypocrisy of a so-called Christian country led by a self-declared born-again Christian, and not because these sentiments are unique to the Bible. Absent the promise of heaven to those who abide by these norms, they are the beliefs of numerous organizations and people worldwide, including atheist critics of nationalism such as this author."

Typical US-Christian ad hominem attack. Forget about our beliefs. If you don't think my quotations from the Bible accurately convey its meaning, please show me the passages in which Jesus tells his followers to humiliate and expel foreigners.

 
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